RWAAC Digs Itself in Deeper ~ Annapolis Capital Punishment
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Tuesday, June 23, 2009

RWAAC Digs Itself in Deeper

Following a post about a local Republican organization comparing President Obama to Hitler, I received the below letter from Chuck Thomann, whose email address is that of Jan Thomann, head of that organization. His words below:

Face facts, Hitler came to power as a Socialist advocating many programs that Obama and his liberal/socialist friends are advocating. Hitler promised a Volkswagen in every garage as well as other things which appealed to the average German during Germany’s great depression after World War I. The extermination of millions of innocent people and the WWII came later after Hitler took dictatorial power, and the German people would never have accepted him if they are realized what would happen. Obama was being compared in the article you mention to the early Hitler, not the Hitler that eventually emerged. As historians have pointed out, socialism results in fascism and Hitler is a prime example of how that happens.


Learn your history and talk to German’s who lived through the Hitler era, as I have. They will verify what I have said.


The people who should apologize are the liberal/ socialists who are taking over our Country by Law and who will eventually do away with the Constitution as it was intended by the Founding Fathers. Again, learn from history so we don’t make the same mistakes as the German’s did. Obama may not trying to be a dictator himself , but he certainly is the front man (dupe) for those who would follow that route and take over our lives completely – lots of Democrats, intentional or not, are letting it happen. It is a trend that has been growing in the United States for a number of years. My cousin, FDR, fell for it as did my cousin Henry Wallace.


Socialism was gaining ground in Europe until recently and not working, why should anyone think that it would work here? Once in place, socialism takes a dictatorship to manage it and assure the people do not revolt, and many in Europe are beginning to understand that so the trend to get rid of the socialist movement is growing, as it should be here. England and Canada are good examples of what has happened and how things have evolved. I teach history and have also lived in Germany.



The point is that Obama is advocating the same solutions to Germany’s post World War I problems that Hitler did to get himself into power, it is not accusing him of being like what Hitler became when he began World War II and exterminated the Jews and others.


Chuck Thomann

To which I replied:

Dear Chuck and Joyce


When I publish your letter shall I say it was written by both of you or only one? If so, which one?
For your information, I have studied a lot about World War 2, and in particular the history of Jews in Europe and the Holocaust. I also personally know many who survived the Holocaust. Many of my relatives perished in Treblinka in the summer of 1942.

I don't find much of anything similar to Obama and Hitler and for you to make such a claim is outrageous. I find it disingenuous and patronizing to be told to learn my history. Simply because we may disagree on some of the finer points of history does not necessarily mean I do no know of what I write. I simply have a different understanding of it than do you. Perhaps you are the one who is unable to accept differing points of view. Perhaps?

Sincerely,

Paul Foer

to which Chuck Thomann replied:


Dear Paul:



The issue is HOW Hitler came to power, not what happened afterwards.

Nobody is accusing Obama of being the horrible man that Hitler turned out to be. You are apparently not grasping the point that Hitler was a socialist when he came to power and he convinced the German people that he had the answers to their economic problems. Germany was suffering from a great depression in the aftermath of World War I not only because of the expense of the war but because of the Versailles treaty which took many of the resources that Germany could have used to recover.

Obama and the liberals in America are proposing the same socialist based solutions to solve our economic problems today, and that is the point. Socialism comes into power by Law and political action while Communism comes into power by revolution, but they are similar in many ways.


Nobody is making the claim that something like a war or a holocaust is going to take place or that Obama intends those things. Many who initially supported Hitler were undoubtedly eventually appalled and deeply sorry that they did. What is being observed in what Joyce wrote is that the socialist advocates in this Country, now led by Obama, are coming into power using many, not all, of the political tactics used by Hitler to become the political leader in Germany.


UNFORTUNATELY, HISTORY SHOWS THAT SOCIALISM DOES LEAD TO FASCISM, AND THAT IS WHAT WE MUST GUARD AGAINST IF WE ARE TO RETAIN OUR FREEDOMS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT IS WHY CONSERVATIVES OF BOTH PARTIES OPPOSE OBAMA AND THE LIBERAL MOVEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY, AS HAVE AMERICAN’S OPPOSED THE SOCIALIST MOVEMENT SINCE IT BEGAN HERE IN THE 1800’S.


Your study and understanding of World War II and the Holocaust is great, and they were BOTH an unforeseen consequence of Hitler coming to power, but they have nothing to do with the tactics used by the left to initially obtain power, and HOW the socialists came to power in Germany was the point that Joyce was making.

If Hitler had not come to power and Germany had remained a Democracy, your relatives in Treblinka would not have perished, and what a terrible tragedy that they did have to suffer the way that they did. They certainly have our sympathy and our prayers for their souls.

Joyce is in Denver with her Mom, and, while it is her article, I wanted to try and put all of this into the proper perspective. The purpose is to not allow socialists to take political power in America, but to maintain the Republic and its freedoms that have been so successful. Socialism, to remain in power, historically represses those liberties. If you are a student of history, you surely know these things.


Chuck

CP Notes: Many others are apparently expressing outrage over these remarks and I find it remarkable that no Republican leaders have spoken out--at least not to my knowledge. I hope that this group represents but a fringe of the GOP although one can only wonder these days. And by the way, are there any other Liberals out there who also find it disugsting to be portrayed as socialists hell bent on communism that will bring about fascism? I could go on, but....oh well.


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3 Comments:

Courtney said...

Paul,

I can understand that you, as an obvious Dem, would have felt the way you did on this subject several months ago.

What I'd love to know is, do you still feel the same way now?

Just wondering...

Courtney Vickery
Annapolis
Former RWAAC member

Paul Foer said...

Do I feel the same way about what now?

Paul Foer said...

By the way, why are you a "former" RWAAC member??

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